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From the P2P Foundation: Podcast on Fully Automated Luxury Communism

June 14, 2016 by Admin Leave a Comment

From the P2P Foundation website:

Fully Automated Luxury Communism

“There is a tendency in capitalism to automate labor, to turn things previously done by humans into automated functions. In recognition of that, then the only utopian demand can be for the full automation of everything and common ownership of that which is automated.”

This podcast, featuring a conversation between Aaron Bastani and Kirsty Styles was forwarded to us by our colleague Federico Guerrieri of the New Economics Foundation.

From the shownotes to the podcast:

Novara Media’s Aaron Bastani discusses his ideas about technology, the future of work and Fully Automated Luxury Communism.

Luxury communism is seen as an opportunity to bring about a post-work society, where machines do the heavy lifting and employment as we know it is a thing of the past

In the podcast Bastani says that “technology has changed everything and politics need to catch up”. “There is a tendency in capitalism to automate labor, to turn things previously done by humans into automated functions. In recognition of that, then the only utopian demand can be for the full automation of everything and common ownership of that which is automated.”

Is fully automated luxury communism the way to go?

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Produced by James Shield. Programme editor for NEF: Huw Jordan.

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Brought to you by the New Economics Foundation – the independent think tank and charity campaigning for a fairer, sustainable economy. Find out more at www.neweconomics.org.

Music this week is by Podington Bear, Juanitos, and Quiet Music for Tiny Robots.

Release date:
6 June 2016
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The contradiction between the general social power into which capital develops, on the one hand, and the private power of the individual capitalists over these social conditions of production, on the other, becomes ever more irreconcilable and yet contains the solution of the problem, because it implies at the same time the transformation of the conditions of production into general, common, social conditions. This transformation stems from the development of the productive forces under capitalist production, and from the ways and means by which this development takes place.

Marx, Capital vol.III

Understanding the Zeitgeist

In considering such [societal] transformations a distinction should always be made between the material transformation of the economic conditions of production... and the legal, political, religious, esthetic or philosophic - in short, ideological forms in which men become consciousness of this conflict and fight it out.
Just as our opinion of an individual is not based on what he thinks of himself, so we cannot judge of such a period of transformation by its own consciousness; on the contrary, this consciousness must be explained rather from the contradictions of material life, from the existing conflict between the social productive forces and the relations of production.

- Karl Marx

Revolution in the Fullness of Time:

Since the historical appearance of the capitalist mode of production, the appropriation by society of all the means of production has often been dreamed of, more or less vaguely, by individuals, as well as by sects, as the ideal of the future.
But it could become possible, could become a historical necessity, only when the actual conditions for its realization were there. Like every other social advance, it becomes practicable, not by men understanding that the existence of classes is in contradiction to justice, equality, etc., not by the mere willingness to abolish these classes, but by virtue of certain new economic conditions.

-Friedrich Engels, Socialism; Utopian and Scientific (1880)

We are free to imagine an ideal society in which all other tasks are almost totally automated and each individual has as much freedom as possible to pursue to goods of education, culture, and health for the benefit of herself and others.

Thomas Piketty, Capital In The Twenty-First Century

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